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Dark Marks against gubernatorial candidates (and why they're wrong)

by: Joe Bodell

Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 09:27:48 AM CDT


I posted some advice for gubernatorial candidates last night, and would like to reiterate:
We have so far to go, and we have barely scratched the surface of what's necessary to put this state and nation back on track, and I will not stand for candidates, elected officials, bloggers, activists, or anyone else who can't see past their own biases and self-interest to recognize the bigger prizes currently at stake.
I can't emphasize this enough, especially the biases and self-interest pieces.

Let me be crystal clear before I return to muddying the rhetorical waters: I can see a plausible path to gubernatorial victory for several of the DFL candidates currently or considering running. Before they get the nomination, however, they're going to have to run the gauntlet of the DFL endorsement, filled with many committed activists who want desperately to win, but also with plenty of old-school ideologues who care more about the endorsement process than the reasons it exists. To say nothing of the primary next September.

And among those communities, there are a lot of dark marks being handed out to candidates for really, really bad reasons. Let's do a run-down below the fold...

Joe Bodell :: Dark Marks against gubernatorial candidates (and why they're wrong)
Susan Gaertner: Ramsey County Attorney Gaertner has been roundly derided by the peace activist community for her role in prosecuting the "RNC 8" -- eight people who may or may not have been involved in rioting, destruction of public property, and violence during the 2008 Republican National Convention. We've been over this before, but I think there's a pretty good analog at the federal level: the Defense of Marriage Act. Recently, the Obama Justice Department was forced to defend DOMA in court despite the fact that the President opposes it in principle. Unfortunately, that's what Justice Departments and County Attorneys do: they're given a set of laws, a set of evidence that those laws were broken, and prosecute trials based on that evidence. They don't really get the privilege of saying "well, I don't agree with this law or that arrest, so I'm not going to prosecute."

Chris Coleman: Ditto Coleman on the RNC. Coleman is a soft-spoken but funny and engaging Mayor, and he was NOT sitting in a smoke-filled room handing out the orders for the cops to go hog-wild in their crowd control assignments during the RNC. How about actually listening to Coleman and Gaertner talk about the issues before attaching some comic-book innuendo to their roles in the RNC disaster last year?

Steve Kelley: With the caveat that I briefly worked for and supported Kelley's 2006 gubernatorial bid, a lot of the issues with his politics have been hashed out, and a lot of them center on the new Twins Stadium and how it's being paid for. Minnesota is not unique in being blackmailed by Major League Baseball into contributing funds to new ballparks; that being said, the bill Sen. Kelley carried was a relatively better deal than a LOT of other states have gotten.

Good luck proving it's a net negative to have a beautiful new outdoor baseball stadium in Minneapolis.

As for Kelley's electoral history, let's lay it all out there: he's lost three bids for statewide office. The 2000 U.S. Senate field was divided heading into the endorsement, and no one without the endorsement had a chance against Mark Dayton (sounds familiar...). All right, he lost. He went back to work in the legislature. Then in 2006, he barely lost the endorsement to Mike Hatch, who, for all his personality and anger issues, was a force of nature in DFL politics. That was one hell of a floor fight, and it was a genuine tossup for a while.

And then the AG's race, in which we finally have some mainstream speculation about Hatch's role in that race, designed perhaps not to screw Kelley over, but simply get "Hatch's person" into the AG's office.

Difficult to see how that's Kelley's fault.

Bottom line: Kelley has come a long way as a political personality, is still on the right side of the vast majority of issues, and might well be running for reelection to the Governor's office today had things gone a little differently in June 2006. He is far from the perennial loser as which some are lampooning him.

John Marty: Marty is a bit of a stretch -- I don't really see a reasonable path to general-election victory for him, and he has the ignominious distinction of having been crushed -- like, really badly -- in a statewide general election. Nevertheless, he fills an important role in the debates leading to the endorsement and primary -- that of making sure that as many candidates as possible are hewing to the progressive line on the issues. We need that voice in the room.

Mark Dayton: The Republican Party's attack machine was getting ready after the 2004 elections to launch a huge barrage against Dayton in an effort to get Mark Kennedy into the Senate. Dayton's decision to step aside in favor of Amy Klobuchar may have been a key part of the DFL keeping the seat (to say nothing of Klobuchar's political skills or the 2006 Democratic tsunami). It cannot be denied that Dayton didn't have a great six years in Washington -- he spent nearly all of it in the minority, and as a junior Senator at that. No good. But this is a guy who has put his family's fortune and his personal reputation on the line several times for the sake of service to Minnesota. It's tough to argue with Dayton's commitment to political service, and he deserves a lot of respect for it, whether he wins the DFL gubernatorial nomination or not.

Matt Entenza: ah, the piece de resistance. Many electrons have been spilled discussing Entenza's past issues -- the 2006 AG's race, an oppo research snafu involving Mike Hatch, his family fortunes...let's break them down one by one:

1.) Mike Hatch is believed by many in the DFL to be one of the most vengeful political operators in the state's history. For my part, I've never spoken directly with him -- I hear he's a nice guy in person. But someone's personality and their political image are two separate things, and crossing Hatch has not worked out well for many. That's what happened with Entenza in '06, and it ended badly.

2.) Ethics scandals? Campaign finance violations? Entenza recently made a self-reported error -- his campaign notified the Campaign Finance Board, returned the erroneous donation, and paid a fine. In the past, he got knocked with a larger fine by the CFB. Of course, so has Tim Pawlenty (an even HUGER fine). So have many candidates for statewide office. In short, this stuff happens. We could be focusing on Minority Leader Entenza's successful round of Chicken played against Gov. Pawlenty during the 2005 legislative session, in which Pawlenty wanted to kick 30,000 people off of MinnesotaCare, Entenza refused, and Pawlenty blinked first. But no, that doesn't seem to be very important to some on both sides of the aisle.

3.) Lois Quam. Entenza's wife worked at and was paid handsomely by United Health Group while that company was doing some questionable things in the health insurance industry. Of course, the group she headed was largely clean, and she has been a pretty strong advocate for health insurance reform for a very long time. The image of a health insurance executive near the top of the state's government is too scary to consider all the other facts in play, apparently.

But never mind that for a moment -- how many of us were complaining back in 2004 when John Kerry was making an emergency $6 million loan to his campaign ahead of the Iowa caucuses? Are we complaining when people like Mitt Romney, John Edwards, and others employ their family fortunes as a tool in their political arsenals? Did we complain when Mark Dayton spent huge sums of his own money on winning previous statewide races? It's pretty revolting to me when people on both sides of the aisle talk about "Entenza's wife's money," because it's both a misnomer and laden with all kinds of inaccurate innuendo. Here's another guy who could sit back, live off the fat of the land, and enjoy life, but no, he's starting think tanks, and running in a competitive statewide race, because he wants to serve.

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And here's the thing about all these points: I'm not wrong. With the exceptions of Sen. Marty and Mayor Coleman, I have spoken at length with each of these candidates, and I think I have a pretty good feel for their personalities, their political approaches, and why they're running. So it makes me a little angry when someone comes out and calls one of them a douchebag without making a phone call, or sending an email, or doing any kind of due diligence to make sure they're posting facts in context rather than their filtered, opinionated views of the candidate based on who knows what.

You want answers from a candidate about an ethics violation? Ask. If you don't get an answer, that's as good as getting a bad one. If you get a bad one, publish it and tell us why you think it's a bad one. If you get a good one, be honest enough to say yeah, this is a pretty good answer. I was uncomfortable with the optics of this situation, but there's another reasonable side to the story.

Otherwise, you're just feeding the reactionary beast that's designed to mess with us and send the state down a deep, dark rabbit hole for another four years. We're better than that. We need to be better than that.

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Great Post and Great Points (4.00 / 1)
We need to understand that we can disagree without being disagreeable.  There are so many positives to so many of these candidates, that supporters of need to spend more time pointing out how their candidate excels over the others rather then how the others are so bad, providing the GOP with more amo and doing their job for them.

There are what, like 12 DFLers running? Which means 11 will not be on the Nov ballot.  So any supporter of any DFL candidates has at best , a 9% chance of backing the right candidates, and 91% of us will not.  We need to understand that every candidate will need the backing of the supporters of EVERY other DFL candidate at some point if they keep moving forward.  So attacking each other for daring to believe some other DFLer is a better candidate, or attacking the other candidates does nothing to help us come together in the end when the chips are down and it's all on the line in the bottom of the 9th (enough metaphors?).

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Of course you're right (4.00 / 1)
but I suspect that you're as aware as anyone that many won't take heed.  Old/legacy/whatever media will treat every minor spat between DFL candidates as a major blowout, and so will some bloggers.

But we'll win anyway.


Sadly you are right (0.00 / 0)
It's the deeply ingrained love of the circular firing squad we have as DFLers.

Thankfully it seems that publicly at least, the campaigns are staying out of it, and it is only zealous supporters on blogs and in comments.  But as you well know, it is only a matter of time...but hopefully, we are wrong.

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We can have the best of both worlds (0.00 / 0)
Let's focus on nominating a candidate that carries the positives of being a progressive-minded person and doesn't have the negatives that go along with the dirty laundry you mentioned.  Paul Thissen and Tom Bakk have no negatives and possess the best progressive chops in the field.  There's no need to choose among the least bad candidate when we have quality folks to elect.  

"Paul Thissen and Tom Bakk have no negatives ...." (0.00 / 0)
Oh, I'm sure the tag-team tandem of FEC Tony and MudSlingerMike will make a few up.....after all, that's what the GreedOverPrinciples party does.

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Well, they ARE good at it. (0.00 / 0)
And my mom always said, "stick to what you're good at."

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Joe, there's thing you said I'm going to partly disagree with, "...but also with plenty of old-school ideologues who care more about the endorsement process than the reasons it exists." I'm challenging what I perceive to be the conventional wisdom, that the endorsement process usually fails, and does so because ideologues pick extreme candidates who can't win the primary or general election. Since you were writing about the gubernatorial race, I'll point out that with the exception of Marty in 1994, the endorsements starting with the endorsement of Perpich in 1986 has gone to the candidate deemed safest and most electable. All these candidates won the primary.

In the general election, Perpich won in 1986. 1990 was a bizarre year with the eminently beatable Republican suddenly dropping out due to a scandal. In 1994, there's a good case the wrong candidate was picked. The last three elections have included a strong third party, which after three times looks more like a trend than a fluke, but that means the problem is the splitting of votes, not the endorsement process.

Outside the gubernatorial races, the endorsed candidates have a very good record of winning not just primaries, but general elections too, which does not imply a problem with the endorsements.

So I'm not suggesting no one should suggest a different endorsement process. Other states have different methods and seem to work all right. I'm just saying the conventional wisdom about endorsements is mostly wrong, and we should be realistic before considering reforms.


Political Trials Not Started, History is Relevant! (0.00 / 0)
We are in the middle of political trials here in Minnesota that Susan Gaertner is running, that is currently news. The actual courtroom part of those trials have NOT even started. So get over it, it is news, even if it is news that you don't personally like. While, there are trials of the RNC8 who organized people to line people up in a peace parade - for "conspiracy to riot". Funny how there are no trials of police who throw tear gas bombs for NO cause and then told people to run - for "conspiracy to riot". The police induced "riot" produced the "riot" pictures reported on the local TV news. Yet funny the police leadership is not on trial for "conspiracy to riot"? Susan has complete discretion on what cases to pursue, and has CHOSEN to pursue charges of "conspiracy to riot". Now, because I am from St Paul and there is the smallest chance of real evidence (nothing has appeared in any other source), I am waiting to see. So you cannot and will not shut down the discussion on this, when we have not finished the court cases AND I have not even written the articles that I have sitting on, waiting for more facts.

Basically we have to fight fair, however everything does not get to be buried and glossed over. That someone ran a poor campaign at the beginning of a career, when the rest of the career shows incredible victories, is hard to argue as valid. That is just a matter of experience.

Poor judgment could also be fixed if it was isolated and a long time ago. However something that is happening NOW, is definitely legitimate.

The stadium issue was not small, it was the pen-ultimate political decision of Steve Kelley's career. Steve Kelley was the lead in the conference committee and could have had transportation in that stadium bill. Since Steve Kelley has been out of office and has failed to do anything like Minnesota 2020, Steve Kelley himself is using the same record from the same time period to justify voting for him. This is not a question of experience or of judgment or of directing other people, where one can get better. It is a question of trust, who does Steve Kelley really represent? Rich people or the rest of us? I would rather have a rich politician than a politician owned by the rich. The way a person creates legislation and votes is accountability. So the bottom line, is that when Steve Kelley had the chance to get improved transportation in a compromise with building a stadium, he dropped it! And Steve Kelley had promised people and other legislators that he would do this. Steve Kelley's promises and word are not trustworthy. So the content of what Steve Kelley says and promises does not matter, because you cannot trust it.

As for your comment,"Chris Coleman - he was NOT sitting in a smoke-filled room handing out the orders", you really don't know St Paul at all. Even the "smoke-filled" room is inadvertently funny because smoking in bars is a huge St Paul issue, and one of the big discussions was about Chris Coleman visiting a "smoking parlor".

I think we do need to consider history and record - in perspective like

  • lying us into war is way more important than a sexual affair
  • deliberately spending money and passing law for special interests is way more important that a relative who once worked for a special interest
  • current deliberate major choices in ones current job count way more than a reported minor mistake made by a campaign employee in what campaign money can be accepted
  • The legacy media spent more than 100 days of coverage on the President Clinton sexual affair and did not report Downing street memo that demonstrated that President Bush lied us into war. Let's not make that mistake!

    We as the responsible journalists have to bring up news and history that really matters!

    Everyday in every campaign, there are minor money handling mistakes that happen. Reporting a minor one as a major newsworthy event is a lie in that it implies that this is really important. Continuous patterns of bad money handling is really important and should be reported. A single self-reported incident is not important.

    All of us need to earn a living. I personally worked 11 years for a big oil company, Chevron. What I did was very good work. Then and now, I have had the same political beliefs. In fact one of the reasons that I worked for Chevron was because it was one of the few companies seriously trying to use wind power. So the mere fact of having worked with or for a company does not make one an automatic lobbyist for every position of that company.

    So if you want to make the case of companies and money influencing voting and budgets, then examine all money and all relatives jobs equally. Also then look at actual votes and actual acts. We can and we should be better at this than legacy media.

    So I think if we want to do a better job than legacy media, we have to sort in a better way though all of the facts and build better cases. And I respectfully disagree, history is relevant, when put in proper perspective!

    So I go a different path in better, but is I do agree, with "We're better than that. We need to be better than that."



    Mirror please. (0.00 / 0)
    "We have so far to go, and we have barely scratched the surface of what's necessary to put this state and nation back on track, and I will not stand for candidates, elected officials, bloggers, activists, or anyone else who can't see past their own biases and self-interest to recognize the bigger prizes currently at stake"

    Nice post Joe. You are spot on. But you could be talking about some of your own contributors to this blog.


    Who said I wasn't? (0.00 / 0)
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