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Interview with Peter Agre

by: Joe Bodell

Wed May 30, 2007 at 08:57:46 AM CDT


Peter Agre started life in Northfield, MN, and has maintained a close connection to his native home throughout his accomplished adult life:  medical school, Johns Hopkins faculty, a 2003 Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Vice Chancellor for Science and Technology at Duke University.  Now Agre (pronounced "Ah-gree", in the original Norwegian) is closely examining the possibility of a new challenge:  returning to Minnesota to run for the U.S. Senate. 

Joe Bodell:  What was the initial impetus for you to start thinking about a run for office?

P. Agre:  Public service has always been at the back of my mind.  I was the VP of my student body in high school, ran an underground newspaper, and I've worked pretty extensively on human rights issues around the world as the chair of the National Academy of Science's committee on human rights.  So I've always felt comfortable with public service issues.

JB:  If you decide that yes, running for the Senate is something you want to do, where do you see yourself entering the field?  A long shot?  Middle of the pack?

P. Agre:  I think I'd definitely enter as a long shot; I don't have a campaign presence or a campaign manager yet, I'm not independently wealthy.  But I think there are a lot of people waiting to commit to one candidate or another, and I'm considering the possibility that I'm that person.  I'll have a different kind of platform, I don't have any extreme views...although I do have pretty set views on the environment.  Of course some people are going to say "oh, he's not a Minnesotan" but I've always felt an unmistakable connection to Minnesota as my home.  My family and I come back multiple times a year, we vacation up on the boundary waters, this state has always been my home. 


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Joe Bodell :: Interview with Peter Agre
JB:  Some questions have been raised about you potentially running as an independent candidate...

P. Agre:  I'm a Democrat.  Some people have said to me that if I wanted to make a statement, running as an independent might be a way to do that, but I truly believe that if Norm Coleman is re-elected, there's a strong possibility the Senate will have a GOP majority in 2009.  I don't think an independent candidate will win, and I don't want to be blamed as a spoiler. 

JB:  Why Minnesota?  Why not Maryland, where you spent a great deal of your professional life, or North Carolina, where you are now?

P. Agre:  I considered running for office in Maryland, but Maryland is a place that's overrun with qualified people.  North Carolina...I'm not a North Carolinian in my heart.  Someone can tell you again and again that you're right-handed, but if you're left-handed, that's the hand you're going to write with.

JB:  Which brings us back to Minnesota:  what makes Norm Coleman so bad?

P. Agre:  I think the national Democrats really thinnk Norm Coleman's more vulnerable than he is wicked.  In terms of votes, he's closer to the Democrats than a lot of Republican Senators.  Kofi Annan isn't a saint, but he's pretty close, and when Coleman went after him, I lost a lot of respect for Coleman.  The same when he and the Republicans went after Joe Wilson for bringing up issues that, had they come out before the war, it might have literally changed the course of history.

JB:  What are your major issues?

P. Agre:  I think discussion of issues really has to start post-Iraq.  Clearly we have to get out as soon as possible, and we have to withdraw in an orderly fashion and make sure we get innocent people out of the way.  But at that point it's a matter of refugees and what we do about them.  Jordan currently has about a million Iraqi refugees in a country with the population of Minnesota.

After Iraq, I think the biggest issue is health care.  It's amazing that we're the last industrialized country in the world to provide health coverage to all our citizens.  When the median health premium now costs about $12,000 and American families have a median income of about $45,000...paying 30% of your family's income for health coverage isn't affordable.  We need to be funding physical education, public health initiatives, and start not at age 50, but with children to build healthy lifestyles, and get our information from knowledgeable sources.

I think Democrats are going to have to do some soul-searching on this issue too, because the reality is that personal injury lawsuits do raise the cost of health care...Doctors shouldn't have to work three days a week just to make their malpractice premiums.

JB:  You're a man of science, something that would be rare in Congress.  Do you think religious conservatives have had an adverse effect on public policy in America?

P. Agre:  The religious right has certainly acted as a voting bloc, but I think that's falling apart without a Republican candidate with the perfect constellation that George Bush had.  I think in what we know as the religious right, there are a lot of good people with scars, and we have to be careful not to villify a group of people while still not protecting leaders like the recently-deceased Jerry Falwell. 

Leaders in the religious right like to villify gays, but I know the Bible pretty well, and I've read 2nd Samuel and the story of the love shared by David and Jonathan.  That can certainly be read as a gay love story.  Faith gives many people strength, but when it hurts others, that's not good, and it's certainly not Christian.

JB:  Favorite...
Ice cream flavor:  Coffee.  It's for the coffee, though, not the ice cream
Baseball player:  I grew up watching Harmon Killebrew and Tony Oliva play, but since the strike in '94 and Cal Ripkin retiring, I haven't been able to get excited about it.
Leisure activities:  I like movies, I love to travel...
This is an original one:  commenters at MNCR mentioned one of your notable features that I can see is gone -- your moustache.  P. Agre:  Ha!  I had that moustache for decades.  When we went up to the Boundary Waters, often I'd come back with a beard...but every year the moustache got a little whiter, and eventually I looked in the mirror and thought I looked a bit too much like John Bolton, so I took off the moustache a couple years ago.  You're around the age of my kids, Joe, but I can tell you that when you get up around fifty, you appreciate people saying "you shave the moustache -- you look younger!"

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Throughout the summer, Agre will be in Minnesota examining all the factors feeding into the Senate race, and hopes to make a decision by August.

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Good job (0.00 / 0)
Good interview.  He sounds like an interesting candidate.

Thanks but no thanks! (0.00 / 0)
This exchange kind of struck me as a slap in the face of Minnesotans:

?JB:  Why Minnesota?  Why not Maryland, where you spent a great deal of your professional life, or North Carolina, where you are now?

P. Agre:  I considered running for office in Maryland, but Maryland is a place that's overrun with qualified people.?

So Maryland is overrun with qualified people.  Then Minnesota must be a total vacuum in Agre?s opinion.

I think we have genuine homegrown talent here in Minnesota that could represent us well in the U.S. Senate. Let?s hope they declare their candidacies.

The Original Gordon


I'm fairly confident it was not a slap in the face (0.00 / 0)
But rather simply a statement about the positive state of affairs in Maryland for progressive politics.

Having spoken with Agre in person, I think it's safe to say he's not very into subtext and back-handed comments like the one Gordon sees here.


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Hm (0.00 / 0)
Good interview but it would have been nice if you had asked more about where he stands on the issues. Does he support a Department of Peace? Gay Marriage? Single Payer? Fair Trade? Is he a Progressive Democrat? Or a DLC DINO? Where does he stand on immigration?

He sounds good on international affairs though.

"Kofi Annan isn't a saint, but he's pretty close" I like that. And it's interesting the stuff he's done on human rights.

If he comes out better then Franken on issues such as Fair Trade, Gay Rights and the Department of Peace and all of that I'd be happy to support him. Last professor from Northfield Senator we had was pretty good.


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Nice job on the interview! 

On the topic of possible candidates and when to expected any other future announcements, when does it get too late to announce a candidacy in Minnesota - end of summer/early fall?  I have pretty limited knowledge of MN politics (just what I pick up from blogs, basically), so are possible candidates that are in the State Legislature holding back until after the session is adjourned? Or are there no potential candidates in the State Senate or House (or is it no longer in session, lol?)?  A very generic summary of the state of the race, strictly from my outsider viewpoint, would seem to be a Franken/Ciresi race w/ Agre possibly playing a spoiler.  Now, it looks like Franken can raise money and Ciresi might have an appearance of being due and allowing him to have the nomination this time and also goodwill from his major cases (also, should we expect more high profile endorsements for him, a la McCollum?), but each have issues that are or could weight them down in a general.  Hence, I don't get the sense that people are particularly ecstatic w/ these choices, so that is why I ask if there are others waiting in the wings to announce later, or if it's getting to late?  I can get behind either of these two (possibly three?) candidates, but I am surprised by the lack of gossip making the online rounds, since this is considered to still be one of the top pick-up oppurtunities.  If I remember correctly from "dream candidate" diaries all over the place half a year ago, the names that were coming up read like Cong. McCollum, Mayor Rybak, Justice Alan Page, Mayor Coleman, and Cong. Walz.  Have all five of these candidates declined the race?  Are there any possible draft movements underway?  Is it possible that State Senator Mee Moua could be persuaded to make the race?


Some good points (0.00 / 0)
To my knowledge, all five of those potentials have declined.  McCollum has endorsed Ciresi, Rybak has said no, Chris Coleman has his own re-election to deal with, and Walz has said emphatically no.  Page has shown no interest.

Moua's name has certainly been floated, but hasn't gained a whole lot of traction.  The only name I've heard out of the legislature that has shown interest is Rep. Joe Atkins of...Inver Grove Heights, I think.  But you bring up a good point -- in a race as expensive and important as this, there is a chronological threshold beyond which it's just not feasible to get into this race.  The candidates already in would pound (perhaps correctly) on late entries as unable to raise the money to run a viable campaign against Norm Coleman.  In the financial system in place in today's political game, the DFL endorsement simply is not enough to propel a candidate into immediate viability.


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Thanks for the reply! (0.00 / 0)
When do you think that chronological threshold is?  By summer's end?  Also, I always read about the DFL endorsement in MN...what is that?  LOL, I know that I probably should've caught on to that by now, and I have seen the term numerous times, but does the State Party really endorse one of the candidates at a caucus of convention?  If so, when/how is it conducted?  I think that I've read that Franken and/or Ciresi have pledged to abide by the DFL endorsement, so does that mean they'd drop out if they didn't receive it?

Too bad to hear that all five of those candidates have declined.  From what I've read about Senator Moua, she sounds like she'd be a formidable candidate...maybe she's mulling it over?  In your opinion, do you see Atkins or Agre making a dent in the Franken/Ciresi showdown?

Thanks again.


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yes, they'd drop (0.00 / 0)
The DFL State convention will occur next year and afterwards (if an endorsement is made) those who "abide" will drop out of the primary and thus, the general election.  This is standard operating procedure, for the good or bad.

The process will go:
1) Caucuses
2) Local DFL Convention (by Senate District or County Unit)
2) State Convention.

anyone can get active and be voted to continue on from convention to convention until the state (and in 08 selections will be made for the National Convention in Denver).  It is an open process, yet convoluted, and you can really make a personal impact of you dedicate the time towards a candidate or issue.

-Ag


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